Together Again!
Welcome back to the Opinions of Zoë and Luna (but mostly Luna because it’s the first time she’s really been able to talk about the finale with anyone)!
This is the episode in which Luna reads her notes, Zoë defends herself, and hyphens and dashes battle it out (hyphen wins, btw). <–Says Luna.
Both opinions are shared, and both parties are in agreement as to what the worst part of the finale was, as well as the best. Listen to find out, yeah? And thanks LUNA for being such a drama queen!
Enjoy, my fellow Zutarians.
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First comment, take that Madi! I pwn. Now i listen
Chey said this on July 21st, 2008 at 7:44 am
lol. er… I’m listening to your podcast, and literally, right now, you just said “animals shouldn’t talk in avatar world”
Um…. LIBRARY OWL.
That’s all I have to say about that. lol. More comments as I go along, I’m sure.
Youkai Yume said this on July 21st, 2008 at 7:47 am
Library owl scared me :O Hahaha.
Chey said this on July 21st, 2008 at 7:55 am
My cousin is schizophrenic…DX
Chey said this on July 21st, 2008 at 8:32 am
the library owl wasnt an animal tho, it was the knowledge spirit or whatever
mark said this on July 21st, 2008 at 9:03 am
I knew your last name xD Your deviant art is not so hidden lmao
Chey said this on July 21st, 2008 at 9:05 am
yes, but can’t you say that with the lion turtle being as old as it is, as a part of the raw energy of the earth and all that spiritual crap, it’s probably a sacred god/spirit itself. I mean… it must be some form of spiritual. I knows the secret to spirit bending and other mystical mysteries.
Youkai Yume said this on July 21st, 2008 at 9:55 am
*It knows the secret to spirit bending and other mystical mysteries.
Wow, that was chock full of typos.
Youkai Yume said this on July 21st, 2008 at 9:57 am
Damn you chey! I’m just kidding, I love you!
Wow, I’m only a little over halfway through with the podcast right now…2 hours and 9 minutes it’s a fucking long podcast! But I love it, cause you guys are awesome.
But just so ya know, I’ve listened to a total of…3 of TZO’s podcasts. The most recent one that was up when I first found them (I have no idea which one, they’re all the same) and then the sozin’s comet one and some other random one…oh the one where they found out about that guy who saw the finale. The one with the obnoxious fake crying? Yeah that shit. Shoutboxes are used on a lot of sites, though, so…idk the fact that they got it right after you does seem very suspicious! BTW, I just went to that site, are you Gir? XDD
And now back to listening to the podcast…wondering how long it’s gonna take before you get off the tangent and back to Avatar…haha love you guys!
*not allergic to peanut butter,
Madi said this on July 21st, 2008 at 10:37 am
OMG did you really just resite the lyrics to “Captian Planet”?!? I think something in my brain shook loose I was laughing so hard!! LOL!
Nightscream said this on July 21st, 2008 at 10:41 am
Hhaahaha Madi and i have a love hate thing going here xD *hells yeah i’m allergic to peanut butter rofl
OMG i didnt notice the captain planet thing :O That show always scared me. To much obnoxious messaging
chey said this on July 21st, 2008 at 11:18 am
Ok, finally finished it. I love the part about Sokka’s drawing because Luna I totally said the exact same thing you did when Mai said “I look like a man”. I said “Mai you are a man” XDD
Um…such a long podcast so many things to comment on. I completely agree with what you guys said about Southern Raiders, which was why I was slightly surprised at how much Zoë seemed to love it right after, because I was really disappointed with how rushed it was, and how the forgiveness seemed out-of-place. I understand for it to seem like that initially, but looking at it you can see how it was rushed. Luna explained it how I saw it, too. And I remember I said it in the shoutbox or somewhere that yeah, it should have been 2 episodes and BR should have been 1.
Madi said this on July 21st, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Hey I got a mention in this one….but I is GIRL!!! I has girl parts…NOT boy parts.
Yeah I had planed on volunteering this year for Comic-Con because I couldn’t afford the 4-day pass (4 day all the way!!!) but with this move all my time is being devoted to Overtime at work and getting my new place in order (its in total chaos right now)
I would love to meet you two and chat about avatar while your in town! I’ll send you an e-mail later and we can hash out the details.
Nightscream said this on July 21st, 2008 at 1:06 pm
Can you ask if Zuko will ever find his mother? Cause that kinda irritated everyone I watched it with. And the end was thrown together in a hurry and it was just very obvious. In my opinion everything was good till those last five minutes. Although I did kinda dislike the spirit bending I kinda felt jipped. But yeah no more rambling for me.
Lin said this on July 21st, 2008 at 1:25 pm
I posted my suggestion for a question in the tater podcast, I think…
Madi said this on July 21st, 2008 at 1:56 pm
YEY FOR LUNA NOT BEING MAD AT DARTH-TATER! XD Like the nickname…
Also I wanted to mention: I AM THAT ONLY FAN THAT WANTS AVATAR VS STARWARS THINGY! YEY!! xDDD
ALSO LORD OF THE RING ROCKS! EVERYBODY LOVES FRODO! JUST NOT THE GAY ONE THAT APEARED IN THE MOVIE! The book is awesome, read it, the movies as a whole, suck in comparison
Totally need somewhere to rant about this or I don’t know, its just such a bad way to close the series, seriously it was all so rushed in the last episode, and they had Aang acting like a scared whiny holierthenthou bitch the whole time! Fuck! And yes, I felt that way too, totally cheated, Aang didn’t do shit, not defeat the FireLord, no that was the Avatar State, which as you said is more Roku, Koruk YangCheng and kickass Kioshi then Aang…
Which reminds me, Kyoshi totally kicked ass, the last coment when Aang is all: Well technically Chin the Great killed himself
And Kyoshi almost seems to smile: I really don’t see the diference…
Right there it was like when she said back in the episode The Avatar Day: I killed Chin the Great
She owns up to what she did, or what she would had done, I think Kyoshi right there was like, well he fell but if he hadn’t I would had stomped his ass into the very core of the earth… fucking midget… XD
While Aang is all like: Well I don’t believe in killing so why should I?
I thought someone was going to slap that punk, seriously, he needed to get a good wooping and then a lot of explaining, cause man, it was so lame that he could just have it both ways, just because some magical power came around right when he needed and even then! I mean, shit, are you telling me we shouldn’t kill a Tyrant but that it would be ok to lobotimice the poor sucker? Cause that is more or less what they are saying, he stole, so chop off his hand, he used his firebending for evil so strip him from that… just don’t kill him, you can maim him, and force him to live like an incomplete being, but not kill him… not like you can’t do shit without bending, but I thing it would be like being a writer and somebody coming and take away your ability to write at all, something to that extent
Also the whole thing ith Sokka mocking Ozai for not having bending… its so out of character for him, I would understand if Toph did it, she can be like that, not that she is bad or anything, I luv her, but she has shown that disregard even if sort of acted, towards non-benders, but I really thought Sokka would be the oposite of that, he’d be more like: Fuck it! I can’t bend and look how many ships I just wrecked! We have to take care of him for good!
One last though I had about it all… I think Zoë might had mentioned something akin to it but anyway I am gonna say it, about Southern Raiders and just Avatar in general, cause suddenly it became like this HUGE thing… DO NOT KILL THE FIRELORD, iwhile they have being killing guys left and right, I mean, just in Season 1 Zuko as the blue Spirit threw gods know how many firenation soldiers down from that big ass wall on Zhao’s fortress, Aang did too, I kinda doubt they would survive that fall… Sokka just on the very same finale goes and smashes like 20 ships to pieces, and throws a whole crew into the sea, which also brings out the point, WTF are those armors made off that they can float? With heavy armor like that you sink like a fucking rock! Hence you are dead… therefore Katara also murdered dozens of soldiers by throwing them into the sea, just to in the end never even touch the guy that deserved it on the first place
To me, that doesn’t make any sense, they Killed Combustionman even, Avatar State Aang fucked a whole armada! Are they implying those guys survived? In fullplate armos and on the freezing water of the northpole?
Don’t really get the whole thing, they make such a big deal of letting Ozai live and no one worries even if Jet survived or died… fuck that was cold
One last thing I wanted to mention was that while Azula Vs Zuko was wicked awesome, Ozai Vs Aang was really… Cliche… DragonBall Z cliche actually… the bad guy shows up, he is super powerful the good guy fights, the evil guy shows off and wins terrein, the good guy dodges and lets the bad guy show off how powerful he is by smashing rocks mountains whatever and beats his ass untill the good guy, someway, somehow puts his shit together, gets inspired and goes SuperSayan… actually I was afraid the Avatar State would become the new SuperSayan and it sort of did, out of nowhere to save the day, Bryke only added an extra layer, the huge whinybitch lameness that doesn’t even give us the clasical DBZ ending of blasting the evil guy to bits…
Sorry for the long Rant guys, just feel really cheated by this ending, tho I sort of knew I would feel like this, it still sucks
One last thing, Zoë and Tater talked about writing somestuff up that I found terribly interesting, the hole ‘rulebook’ to the Avatar world I would definetly be interested in it, reading it, writing for it, I have being working on something like that in my head ad I even had a theory about a time before elements and Avatars, anyway would just kill fr being allowed to help in it if you decide to do it XD
- The FireLord is dead, long live FireLord Zuko
Ghash Ironhand said this on July 21st, 2008 at 3:29 pm
WOW… that was long… sorry for the huge rant girls!
Ghash Ironhand said this on July 21st, 2008 at 3:30 pm
*bows to Ghash*
Well done sir, that was fucking awesome. And yes, you are TOTALLY welcome to help us with the Avatar Rulebook, because I know Luna would want to do that too, and having a team of four to tackle this thing would be ridiculously awesome.
Zoë said this on July 21st, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Haha, can i help with teh rule book too?! I could draw like comics and other stuff… and i have ideas too : ) ! [only cause you guys and this avatar!rulebook idea is awesome! ]
Panda-Ink said this on July 21st, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Holy Crap Ghash! Now that I watched it again, I totally see what you mean my Aangs fight being a total DragonballZ ripoff. Complete with flying villan and Hero….LAME!
Nightscream said this on July 21st, 2008 at 7:28 pm
Oh I love the Kathy Griffin quote, too! Luna you’re good at impersonating her. I love her!
I was worried my comments were kind of long, and I was trying to cut them short, but damn Ghash! Great stuff, though. I agree.
Damn I’m pegged as a TZO person now, huh? Thanks a lot guys, I don’t even like that podcast! It’s too obnoxious…but their art is really cool. Thanks for the hugs and peanut butter, though XDD
Madi said this on July 21st, 2008 at 7:32 pm
OH! Something I kept forgetting to bring up…about the Zuko/Iroh scene. First thing I noticed: He was crying out of both eyes. Up until now, he only cried out of his right eye, the unscarred side. This time, tears fell from his scarred eye, and I was really surprised. I’m actually really curious about this. I thought his tear ducts were like…dead, but I guess they aren’t. So, either this was an animation mistake, or it’s supposed to be like way more emotional for Zuko, so he cries hard enough to cry out of that eye. Any thoughts on that?
Madi said this on July 21st, 2008 at 8:04 pm
kk , comment before was as i was listening to the podcast, so now is my response : ) Ya , i dont really agree with what greenifyME said either. :/ I saw that in her favs too, luna. >_0, and - is dash, / is slash … at least thats what i think :/ though wikipedia says different >:C http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dash , blah . And ya, i thought that boiling rock should have been one episode, and southern raiders should have been two before this podcast : ). Her forgiveness seemed rushed. : ( , but ya, looking forward to hear your thoughts on southern raiders and ember island players. And did anyone else notice how creepy it was when mai told zuko never to break up with her again? o_-
Panda-Ink said this on July 21st, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Hehehehe *Bows back to Zoë* Feel so honored you would allow me to help all of you in this great endeavour…
Glad to hear all you people agree with me to some extent, kinda was starting to feel I was the only guy that noticed those sort of things
This is my MSN Dragonmaw_2@hotmail.com for anyone who wants to contact me, so I’ll gladly join your effort to expand within the voids in the Avatarverse
Ghash Ironhand said this on July 22nd, 2008 at 12:32 am
i have a question (probally not mike and brian worthy, but whatevs). If The Boiling Rock is the highst security prision ing the Fire Nation, and Iroh is, like, the best firebender ever…why the hell was he not imprisioned there (since he betrayed the fire nation and all)? For that matter…why don’t they lock Ozai up there since Iroh escaped so easily from that prison?
On another note…the finale was mainly good for me up to the Maiko kiss (sans the Aang being a bitch parts.) The button was stupid, but Aang did kick ass in the Avatar state (but I agree that credit goest to Kyoshi)
I’ll admit, I cried in the Zuko Iroh reunion (so touching). Zuko is such a strong character and I thought they did really well and conveying his remorse and showing his vunerable side, which we really haven’t seen much.
I have never loved Azula as much as I did in these last few episodes. The part where she is chained down crying gives me shivers (though i do wonder what happened to her, maybe Boiling Rock?) Her fight scene with Zuko was beautiful and I loved the ironic yet so perfect music choice.
We definatly got screwed with Ursa. I actually would have enjoyed the Zuko bitching out Daddy scene if I didn’t know that was all the Ursa explanation we were getting.
I have decided is Suki wasn’t there, I would totally ship Tokka. Sokka’s protection of Toph was pure adorable…though I love Suki too much to take Sokka from her.
I wish we had more Iroh time…his reunion with Zuko was his highlight for me (I prefer to here Iroh talk to seeing him fight)
Mai dissapoints me again. I expected more personality from her after Boiling Rock…but they stuck her right back in her bland, lifeless personality…what a shame
As for Kataang happening…a have just as much hope in Zutara as before…Aang is 13 and Katara is 15-6…how likly is that to be a lasting relationship. Katara will come to her sences eventually.
Anyway…incase you haven’t seen this…here is a present http://ambrmerlinus.deviantart.com/art/The-Gaang-are-Planeteers-47003783 …It makes me happy
Julie said this on July 22nd, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Glad to know I wasn’t the only one who cried at the Zuko/Iroh moment too! I am not someone who usually cries at movies/tv. Only ones being Radio, Click, and The Lion King (I was 7, ok?). But I couldn’t even control it! It was THE most emotional and touching scene in Avatar.
Madi said this on July 22nd, 2008 at 8:12 pm
Madi, you do not have to make excuses for crying during Lion King. I cried when I was 7, 17, and will continue to cry at 27 because that movie is that amazing. Um…you guys know that I’m like an insane Disney dork right? Gots my soft spot for good old Disney animated features.
Comic-con!!! I’m leaving tomorrow(um, today) but please send an email our way ( zoeandluna@gmail.com ) if you want to meet up with us! It’s going to be so exciting!
Oh, and Nightscream, I’m sorry about the boy parts. I thought I remember you once saying you had them, but I supposed my ears were lying. I’m glad SOMEONE appreciates my total recall of just about every tv theme song ever. It’s one of my many useless talents!
And Madi, just about every time I hang out with Tater, there is some point in the conversation where we just go “God damnit Kathleen! Jesus, Mary and Joseph! Why the hell can’t you leave my Barbara alone, Goddamnit!” We amuse ourselves.
And, since no one mentioned it, I’m assuming that no one here knows what Dr. Horrible is. ’tis a shame. A Dvd will be coming and you will all buy it and love it and then send me pretty things for turning you onto it.
Yes, and now is the point where I need sleep. Bye!
Luna said this on July 23rd, 2008 at 2:02 am
I’m a Disney dork, too! I love Disney animated movies! The classics, anyway XDD I haven’t watched Lion King in awhile, but I probably would still cry at that part…
Zoë is right, you do a good impression of Kathy!
I’m so excited for comic con! I’m not going, but I’m anxious to hear what happens, and hopefully get some answers to my questions!
Madi said this on July 23rd, 2008 at 6:48 am
I’m a disney dork to! I remember going to see the Fox & the Hound when it was in theaters when I was a very little girl.
And for Christmas My brother actually bought me the new DVD special edition of Bambi and I was just on cloud nine! Im such a Disny dork that I even have there only PG-13 cartoon release…The Black Culdron! (not their best work, but its a good book series!)
Nightscream said this on July 23rd, 2008 at 7:38 am
I’m at work right now…so I really should finish fileing my huge stack of papers, but I feel like listening to this first…wow, I’m suprised I’m not fired yet! I’m so productive!!!
I love your guyses randon tangents, they are hilarious and in this case…inlightening.
I remember the first time I posted a Zutara related thread on the avatar spirit forum, and wow, they’re mean. They attacked me like ther was no tomorrow. It pissed me off cuz you can totally tell that most of the Kataangers who bashed me were like 12 year olds. It was pathetic. All my arguments were inelectual while there’s was full of typos and grammar issues (not to mention their arguments sucked…) This was a long time ago, so I’ve learned to never go on those forums if I want to say anything avatar related or not.
hmmm…I feel that aang should have sacrificed something (since he obviously just got off on being the avatar) he should have sacrificed hes beliefs and killed ozai, or he shouls have sacrificed Katara, or he should have died…(sorry, I have a thing for main characters dying, i said the same thing about Harry Poter. XD)
Aang is a spoiled little brat who needs to die…lol. Sorry about that…but he is spoiled. Everything he wants practically gets handed to him. And the only opinion that matters to him is his own. Once he’s decided on something there is no swaying his opinion.
But OMG! Katara could have been the Avatar??! She would have totally made a better Avatar than Aang! Dude! Wow…I never thought about this…immagine how many things would have been different if Katara had been the avatar. Zuko and Katara would have never met so there would have been no such thing as Zutara…unless zuko became the opressive firelord and then Katara would have had to Kill him…wow, I’m getting a headache and I should stop now before my head explodes. but you catch my drift, right?
Ariel said this on July 23rd, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Haha, it’s funny that you say ALL those things Ariel, because I was showing my mom the cool bits of Sozin’s Comet on our TiVo, and she was like, “Wait, the water girl gets with the arrow kid?” And I was like, “Yeah, it sucks huh?” And she said, “I like the fire guy better, he isn’t whiney, plus he’s hotter.”
Like mother like daughter, I must say.
Zoë said this on July 23rd, 2008 at 5:11 pm
ummmm what’s with thinking Katara would have been the avatar? Remember that Aang was trapped in ice for about 100 years!? Had he lived and successfully reached adulthood and died a natural death probably between 60-90(unlikely considering how vigorously Sozin was hunting for him) Then Maybe Katara would have. but…BUT had he been killed at a young age between 12-20 (which he probably would have) Then I personally think that they cycle would have already reached Earth again….and Toph would be the Avatar!!! MUWHHAHAHAHAAAHAHHAA All hail the Melon Lord!!!
Nightscream said this on July 23rd, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Your mom thinks Zuko is hot? lol, my mom thinks I’m crazy for thinking cartoon characters are attractive. My dad also thinks I’m crazy but due to some other reasons, I can imagine what it must be like to walk in on you daughter talking on the phone quoting “Why take it orally when you can take it rectally?” (P.s.- I was totally talking about thermometers)
Ariel said this on July 23rd, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Actually Ariel, now that you mention it, I always had this sort of theory or better said the spirit of a story I never quite got around writting an Avatar FanFiction, never really fleshed it out or anything, but it went along these lines…
For starters 100 years ago, Aang wasn’t such a huge wuss and stuck around long enough to actually see the Fire Nation comming down on them, going medieval on the Air Nomads, and then when monk Gyatso is killed or about to… Aang goes all glowy on their asses, still the Fire Nation probably does pwn them 3 to 1, only Aang’s temple standing still it leaves enough to start rebuilding and repopulating
The War all in all would probably last a few more years, untill Aang becomes a fully realized Avatar and goes after Sozin, then he would just go to the Fire Nation and be like: Yo Sozin! *WaterEarthFireAirbends his ass into oblivion* Who is the bitch now!?
Then an uneasy peace is put that will last as long as the Avatar can keep it, and I am assuming Avatar’s don’t lose much of their sharpness with age and not all live till 250 or so as Kyoshi, I am assuming Roku’s life to be more human-like even if still longer then most, I mean dying of oldage would had probably taken Roku a good 30 years or so, therefore I think Aang could had naturally lived long enough to die just as Katara is being born around 86 or so years after the whole incident with the Fire Nation…
Here is where things would get murky, personally I see things going much the same way and still really unexpected posibilities come along, for one I think that as soon as Avatar Aang dies the Fire Nation rushes in a war against time, to find him and capture him or just kill him once more and win a few more years untill Sozin’s comet arrives, so its easy enough to imagine a War between the Fire Nation and the Northren Water Tribe, I mean they are so fucking close, it surprises me that the backwater one was the Southern Tribe, chances are that Azulon is the son of a bitch behind this all, I mean, come on I know I would want to kill the guy that killed my daddy XD
Then things would had gotten rough for the Waterbenders which would no doubt leave Katara scarred as always, her mother saving the world by saving her, the Last Waterbender hehehehe
Still I think she and Zuko would eventually meet, not sure if he would still have his trademark scar, after all, chances are Iroh would be the FireLord and not Ozai, who, let’s admit, its a chump, the only reason the last fight was even remotely interesting was Sozin’s comet, otherwise, he isn’t that interesting
Still we are talking about the old Iroh, not the enlighten post LuTen Iroh but the Evil son of a bitch Iroh that almost took BaSingSe and burnt it to the ground, sort of makes you wonder, no doubt Iroh would be a far more cunning FireLord
Which makes me thing Zuko’s banishment would probably come as a failure not as much of himself but in a botched atempt from Ozai to take power, which we know he would eventually do had Iroh not fallen from grace, so Zuko would had being as always a loyal son and probably taken his father fault and punishment
On the other end of the expectrum Zuko could be a recogniced prince, as we all know Iroh has always held him dearly, so I think the Capture the Avatar mision might not be a fool’s errand in Iroh’s plan but a very real and important part of assuring the FireNation’s victory…
So we would have sort of a clasical Capture fic with a twist… a very big one actually and maybe an unscarred Zuko chacing after the Last Waterbender…
Sorry to get so overworked in such a simple idea but just had to put it into writting or I was gonna go insane xDDD
I must say Nightscream that your Toph Avatar idea intrigues me to say the least…
And lol Zoë I remember my mom comenting something about Avatar like your mother… tho at first it was more like back in season one, I was watching it and Zuko and Aaang where fighting, can’t recall exactly what episode but they were going at it when mom asked: Why are those two bald kids fighting?
At which point my sis went like (She is a complete Zuko Fangirl): He ain’t bald, he’s hot and has a ponytail!
Mom of course was like: That’s not hot at all…
A while later, already in season two we were watching ‘The Chase’ and again mom pops out of no where and seeing Zuko with hair and fighting Azula she coments again: Now that’s hot
I just had to laugh right then and there… but the good part was about to come when Iroh get’s shot with blue fire by Azula and Katara is all like: Let me help!
And Zuko is all angsty with the whole: LEAVE!! And de fire and all
So mom went like: So she has a crush on the bad guy?
Me and my sis laughed so hard xDDD
Yes my mother is a Zutarian too… I think its genetic actually…
Ghash Ironhand said this on July 23rd, 2008 at 10:55 pm
Wow Ghash, you’ve really thought that out, huh? It’s basically what would have happened if Aang wasn’t a pussy! =]
My mom watched one episode of Avatar with me, it was back when book 3 started airing. It was The Avatar and the Firelord, and there was no shipping stuff whatsoever in it, except for the little Taang moment at the end, but I don’t remember if she stayed long enough to see it…but my brother is semi-into the show and watched some episodes with me. He hates Aang, and me and him both were yelling at him during the finale like “kill Ozai damnit! Everyone else knows you have to do it!” and then he refused to watch the last part because I told him it was Kataang and Maiko. He hates Kataang, and is basically a Zutarian, but more of a non-shipper (he thinks it’s a girly thing).
Oh but that reminds me did you guys ever see that thread on KF about them saying they were like grown-ups cause their parents like Kataang?..the title was like “omg kataangers we are grownups!” or something…I remember it had horrible grammar in it…
Madi said this on July 24th, 2008 at 7:57 am
mann.. you guys are so hilarious!! my friend ariel told me to listen to this and im glad she did. i wish i could go to comic con just to meet you guys.
ohh.. and if you could, could you please check out my zutara video?? http://youtube.com/watch?v=5FiPG3W5Vqk
thank you for being awesome!
Melissa said this on July 24th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Ghash,
Wow, I’m suprised because all of that sounds like it could actually happen. Usually when some does a fic like that it just gets way out of control and everything gets wierd. I’m impressed that you were able to think so far ahead with your idea! It sounds good, you should actually write it, it would be way intresting.
And madi,
Lol, that is the worst thing I’ve ever heard…that doesn’t even make sence! There grownups? Lol, you can tell by the title that they are obviously not grown up at all (Te complete lack of punctuation gives it away…I hate it when ppl don use punctuation), and if there going to try to sound older they need to get better grammar…lol, stupid kataangers! And i’m glad that Zoe and Luna introduced me to KF cuz its always good for laughs when I’m bored!
Ariel said this on July 24th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Oh, random fact: I was watching The Soup presents, and they had a clip from that show “Cheaters” and the woman’s name was Zoë, with the weird e and everything.
Madi said this on July 24th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
I would’ve done this sooner, but I had no internet for a few days because of a storm.
Wow, where to begin? The finale was just…so disappointing. I really tried to like it, but most of it just irritated the shit out of me.
First off, I’ve always been ok with Aang as a character. He bugged me sometimes, but overall I didn’t really care either way about him. But I couldn’t believe what a COMPLETE PUSSY he was being the while finale! His fight with Ozai could have been awesome, and instead I spent most of it screaming at the tv. And I understand that airbending itself is about avoidance and using speed to dodge your opponent, ect. but Aang was perfectly fine fighting to defend himself before then!
And don’t get me started on the whole lion-turtle thing…I think you guys pretty much covered that. I think that the whole spirit-bending could have easily been mentioned during the end of book 2, at least. It would have fit in well with the whole chakra idea (river of energy in one’s body) and was a cool concept but invoked a ‘WTF’ since it was randomy thrown in.
Like you guys, I was ok if Zutara didn’t end up happening, as long as Kataang was delivered in a cool, believable way (which it obviously didn’t). But I felt really led on during the second half of book 3 since there were so many Zutara hints. I don’t care how much the creators claim that they never hinted that Zutara would happen; That’s complete BS in my opinion.
I would have really loved to have seen reunions, like with Toph and her parents and Katara and Sooka at the water tribe. But tht goes along with the fact that parts 1-3 were a little drug out and they had 3 minutes to wrap everything up.
Well, now that that’s out of the way. lol
My favorite parts were pretty mcu hthe same as you guys’. Azula was AMAZING! Her bat-shit-craziness had me waiting on baited breath to see what she would do next. And I actually got goosebumps when she was thrashing on the metal grates. (So where the fuck was she at the end, Mike and Brian?!)
Obviously, anything with Zuko was a highlight. I spazzed out big time during the agni kai (Though I wish he’d been shirtless:( ). I felt like Zuko sorta managed to steal some of the show because at the end you can see the full effects of his overwhelming transformation as a character from the beginning of the series until the end, (Emo ponytail boy to great Firelord) while Aang-who’s managed to not mature at all- sits around in his poofy pants waiting to go penguin sledding.
I can’t wait until the Comic Con podcast (I wish I could be there but, alas, I’m stranded in the midwest) and I hope you get some well-deserved answers from the creators.
Emi said this on July 24th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
oh jeez, I didn’t realize that that was so long. Sorry, haha
Emi said this on July 24th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
We typed a huge-ass thing to reply to everyone and tell us about the day here at Con, but the fucking Sheraton internet fucked it all up. We’ll comment on everyone in our next podcast : )
Zoë and Luna said this on July 24th, 2008 at 9:45 pm